New York State of Opportunity

New York State Department of Civil Service announces Continuous Recruitment Examination Open to All Qualified Individuals

Nurse 3

Applications Accepted
Continuously
Tests To Be Held
Periodically

 

Exams Included on This Announcement
Exam Number Exam Title Salary Grade
20-975 Nurse 3 (Correctional Services) G-20
20-838 Nurse 3 (Geriatric) G-20
20-839 Nurse 3 (Psychiatric) G-20
20-840 Nurse 3 (Psychiatric - Manual Communications) G-20
20-841 Nurse 3 (Psychiatric - Spanish Language) G-20
20-842 Nurse 3 (Rehabilitation) G-20

Upstate Counties with Salary Enhancements

Location

Beginning Salary

Job Rate

Statewide (No Salary Enhancements)

$56,813

$72,076

Oxford Veterans Home

$61,313

$76,576

Columbia and Greene Counties

$63,813

$79,076

Monroe County

$64,813

$80,076

Broome and Chemung Counties

$67,301

$76,576

Sullivan and Ulster Counties

$69,684

$84,947

Dutchess and Orange Counties

$71,197

$86,460

Putnam County

$74,668

$86,473

Bedford Hills Correctional Facility

$72,710

$87,973

Fishkill Correctional Facility

$71,197

$86,460

Shift differentials in Upstate Counties range from $400 to $7,000 depending on county.  Appointees may also be eligible for $575/year inconvenience pay.  Additional monies may be available for advanced qualifications.

Downstate Counties with Salary Enhancements

Location
Beginning
Salary
Job Rate
Helen Hayes Hospital
$72,710
$87,973
SUNY Stony Brook
$72,710
$87,973
Bronx, Kings, Nassau, New York, Queens, Richmond, Rockland, Suffolk, and Westchester Counties
$76,181
$87,973

Shift differentials in the Nine-County Greater New York Metropolitan Area range from $3,620 to $4,800 depending on county. Appointees may also be eligible for $575/year inconvenience pay. Additional monies may be available for advanced qualifications.

NO APPLICATION PROCESSING FEE REQUIRED

The Positions

Over half of the positions are located in facilities operated by the Office of Mental Health (OMH). Other agencies utilizing these positions are the Department of Corrections and Community Supervision (DOCCS), State University of New York (SUNY), Office of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Services (OASAS), and Department of Health (DOH). Positions designated as Psychiatric are located only in OMH and OASAS, while those designated as Rehabilitation are located only at DOH's Helen Hayes Hospital in West Haverstraw.

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Duties

As a Nurse 3 (Correctional Services), you would administer training related to providing quality health care to the patient inmate population and coordinate with other direct care staff and Department of Corrections and Community Supervision's main office to develop department policies and procedures. As a Nurse 3 (Geriatric), you would administer training related to providing quality health care to the geriatric patient population and coordinate with other direct care staff, Veterans' Homes, and the Department of Health to develop department policies and procedures. As a Nurse 3 (Psychiatric), you would be expected to provide direct nursing care to patients with the most severe or complicated psychiatric, chemical dependency, and/or medical problems and act as a consultant, teacher and resource person to lower level nurses and other direct care staff. As a Nurse 3 (Rehabilitation), you would provide direct nursing care to patients in the Special Care, Cardiac and Respiratory Care Units. As a consultant/teacher you would demonstrate and teach all aspects of cardiac, respiratory and rehabilitation nursing. Nurse 3 (Psychiatric) and Nurse 3 (Rehabilitation) are expected to operate with a considerable degree of independence and use professional judgment in solving all but the most difficult nursing care problems.

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Minimum Qualifications

On or before the date of filing application:

For Examination No. 20-975 Nurse 3 (Correctional Services): you must be licensed and currently registered to practice nursing in New York State and have a bachelor's degree in education, health education, nursing, public health, epidemiology, or biological sciences and two years of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience, and six months of experience training nursing staff. Substitution: a master's degree in education, health education, or nursing may be substituted for one year of the post RN clinical nursing experience.

For Examination No. 20-838, Nurse 3 (Geriatric): you must be licensed and currently registered to practice nursing in New York State and have one of the following: a diploma degree in nursing and 30 college credits beyond the basic RN program toward the completion of a bachelor's degree in nursing and Gerontological Nurse Certification (ANCC) and two years of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience working with a geriatric population; OR an associate's degree in nursing and 30 college credits beyond the associate's degree toward the completion of a bachelor's degree in nursing and Gerontological Nurse Certification (ANCC) and two years of full-time post RN licensure clinical nursing experience working with a geriatric population; OR a bachelor's degree in nursing or health related area and two years of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience working with a geriatric population; OR a master's degree in nursing and one year of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience working with a geriatric population.

For Examination Nos. 20-839, 20-840, and 20-841, Nurse 3 (Psychiatric) and (Language Parenthetics): you must be licensed and currently registered to practice nursing in New York State and have a bachelor's degree in nursing OR present a notarized letter from the registrar as proof of status as a matriculated senior in a baccalaureate nursing program (you must obtain your degree within one year of the date of appointment or action will be taken to remove you from the position), AND have two years of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience with individuals, at least 50% of whom have been diagnosed with mental illness, alcoholism, or chemical dependency; OR a master's degree or Doctorate in nursing and one year of full-time post-RN licensure clinical nursing experience.

For Examination No. 20-842, Nurse 3 (Rehabilitation): you must be licensed and currently registered to practice nursing in New York State and have a bachelor's degree in nursing OR Certification in ALL the following: Arrhythmia; I.V.; Defibrillation; and Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS), PLUS ONE of the following: Certified Rehabilitation Registered Nurse; or Critical Care Registered Nurse; or 30 additional college credits toward the completion of a bachelor's degree in nursing AND have four years of full time post RN licensure clinical nursing experience in an acute care or acute rehabilitation setting; OR a master's degree in nursing and three years of full-time post RN licensure clinical nursing experience.

Notes

  1. If you fail to maintain your registration once you are appointed, action will be taken to remove you from the position.
  2. Credentials will be reviewed at the time of interview.
  3. Questions regarding requirements for licensure should be directed to the New York State Education Department, Office of the State Board for Nursing, 2nd Floor, 89 Washington Avenue, Albany, NY 12234 or by calling (518) 474-3817. The State Education Department may also be contacted at nursebd@mail.nysed.gov.
  4. Agencies are very interested in candidates who speak Chinese or Spanish or who are skilled in manual communication. If you are considered for appointment to a foreign language position, you will be required to pass a performance test to demonstrate your proficiency in the foreign language. If you are considered for appointment to a manual communication position, you will be required to pass a performance test to demonstrate your proficiency in manual sign language. Proficiency must be at a level that will assure your ability to properly perform the duties of the position.
  5. Appropriate part-time and volunteer experience, which can be verified, will be accepted on a prorated basis.
  6. Applicants for positions at any of the Veterans Homes operated by the Department of Health must have no findings of abuse, neglect, mistreatment, or misappropriation of resident funds listed on the New York State or any state nursing home registry to be considered.
  7. In order to be eligible for appointment and to maintain employment, you cannot be listed as an excluded individual or entity on any of the Federal and/or State Medicaid exclusion lists (or excluded from any other Federal or Federally assisted program). If you are appointed and subsequently listed as an excluded individual or entity on any of these lists (or excluded from any other Federal or Federally assisted program), you may be terminated from your employment.
  8. If appointed you may be required to become an enrolled Medicare provider; obtain and provide to your employer a National Provider Identifier (NPI) number issued by the National Plan and Provider Enumeration System (NPPES); and otherwise actively participate to the degree necessary to allow for your services to be billed through Medicare and Medicaid. If you are appointed and you lost the ability to bill though Medicare and Medicaid, you may be terminated from your employment.
  9. Your degree or college credit must have been awarded by a regionally accredited college or university or one recognized by the NYS Education Department as following acceptable educational practices. If your degree or college credit was awarded by an educational institution outside the United States and its territories, you must provide independent verification of equivalency. You can write to the Examination Information Desk of the Department of Civil Service for a list of acceptable companies who provide this service. You must pay the required evaluation fee.

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Subject of Examination

There will be no written test. If you meet the Minimum Qualifications your education and experience will be evaluated against the general background/critical activities of the position. It is essential that you describe your education and experience as completely as possible on the examination application NYS-APP form. Ambiguity, vagueness or omissions will not be decided in your favor. Do NOT send resumes. If you need more space, attach additional 8��" x 11" sheets, following the same format used on the application form. Your final score will be based on the rating you receive on the evaluation of education and experience. All statements you make on your application are subject to investigation.

Your final score must be 70 or higher in order to pass. Rank on the eligible list will be determined after adding any wartime veterans��� and Civil Service Law Section 85-a credits to your final passing score.

State agencies have an ongoing need for persons qualified for appointment to these positions. Therefore, the agencies listed will accept applications at any time and will rate the education and experience of qualified applicants whenever additional eligibles are needed. Applications received after a rating is completed will be retained for the next rating.

For information about these examinations, write or call any of the facilities or agencies listed.

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How to Apply

Where to Apply

Mail your completed application form, NYS-APP, directly to the agencies or facilities where you wish to be employed, as directed in the listings on the following pages. Do not send application to the New York State Department of Civil Service.

STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK

MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION TO THE FACILITY WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED.

Alfred State College
10 Upper College Drive
Alfred, NY 14802

College of Technology at Delhi
167 Bush Hall
Delhi, NY 13753

Long Island State Veterans Home
Human Resources Department
100 Patriots Road
Stony Brook, NY 11790

NYS College of Ceramics at Alfred University
2 Pine Street
Alfred, NY 14802

State University College of
Agriculture and Technology
at Cobleskill
Cobleskill, NY 12043

State University College of
Agriculture and Technology at Morrisville
Morrisville, NY 13408-0901

State University College of
Technology at Canton
Canton, NY 13617

State University College of
Technology at Farmingdale
Melville Road
Farmingdale, NY 11735

State University of New York at Albany
Human Resources Administration UAB 300
1400 Washington Avenue
Albany, NY 12222

State University of New York at Binghamton
P.O. Box 6000
Binghamton, NY 13902-6000

State University of New York at Buffalo
120 Crofts Hall
Amherst Campus
Buffalo, NY 14260-7022

State University of New York at Stony Brook
390 Administration Building
Human Resources Department
Stony Brook, NY 11794-0751

State University of New York University Hospital
Human Resources Dept.
3 Technology Drive, Suite 100
East Setauket, NY 11733-9300

SUNY College at Brockport
Allen Administration Building
350 New Campus Drive
Brockport, NY 14420-2929

 

SUNY College at Buffalo
1300 Elmwood Avenue
Buffalo, NY 14222-1095

SUNY College at Cortland
P.O. Box 2000
Cortland, NY 13045

SUNY College at Fredonia
510 Maytum Hall
Fredonia, NY 14063

SUNY College at Geneseo
Geneseo, NY 14454

SUNY College at New Paltz
75 South Manheim Boulevard, Suite 9
New Paltz, NY 12561-2443

SUNY College at Old Westbury
P.O. Box 210
Old Westbury, NY 11568-0210

SUNY College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY 13820-4015

SUNY College at Oswego
410 Culkin Hall
Oswego, NY 13126

 

SUNY College at Plattsburgh
101 Broad Street
Plattsburgh, NY 12901-2681

SUNY College at Potsdam
44 Pierrepont Avenue
Potsdam, NY 13676

SUNY College at Purchase
Box 337
Purchase, NY 10577-1400

SUNY Health Science Center at
Brooklyn
450 Clarkson Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11203

SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
750 E. Adams Street
Syracuse, NY 13210

SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica/Rome
PO Box 3050
Marcy Campus
Utica, NY 13502-3050

SUNY Maritime College
6 Pennyfield Ave, Fort Schuyler
Bronx, NY 10465

 


NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION TO THE HOSPITAL OR VETERAN HOME WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED.

Helen Hayes Hospital
Route 9W
West Haverstraw, NY 10993
(845) 786-4000
Attention:  Human Resources Department

New York State Veterans Home at Batavia
220 Richmond Avenue
Batavia, NY 14020
(585) 345-2000
Attention:  Human Resources Department

New York State Veterans Home at Montrose
2090 Albany Post Road
Montrose, NY 10548-1454
(914) 788-6000
Attention:�� Human Resources Department

New York State Veterans Home at Oxford
4211 State Highway 220
Oxford, NY 13830-4305
(607) 843-3121
Attention:  Human Resources Department

New York State Veterans Home at St. Albans
178- Linden Blvd
Jamaica, NY 11434-1467
(718) 481-6268
Attention:�� Human Resources Department

 


NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF ALCOHOLISM AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES

MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION WITH A LIST OF TREATMENT CENTERS WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED TO:
NYS Office of Alcoholism & Substance Abuse Services
Bureau of Human Resources Management
1450 Western Avenue
Albany, NY  12203-3526
(518) 485-1728
http://www.oasas.ny.gov(External Link)

Bronx Addiction Treatment Center
Bronx Psychiatric Center
Building 13
1500 Waters Place
Bronx, NY 10461-2723
(718) 904-0026, ext. 2

C.K. Post Addiction Treatment Center
Pilgrim Psychiatric Center
Building 1, 998 Crooked Hill Road
West Brentwood, NY 11717-1087
(631) 434-7209

Creedmoor Addiction Treatment Center
Creedmoor Psychiatric Center
Building #19, CBU 15
80-45 Winchester Boulevard
Queens Village, NY 11427
(718) 264-3740

 

Dick Van Dyke Addiction Treatment Center
1330 County Road 132
Ovid, NY 14521
(607) 869-9500

John L. Norris Addiction Treatment Center
Rochester Psychiatric Center
1111 Elmwood Ave.
Rochester, NY 14620-3005
(585) 461-0410

Kingsboro Addiction Treatment Center
754 Lexington Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11221
(718) 453-3200

M. A. Stutzman Addiction Treatment Center
360 Forest Avenue
Buffalo, NY 14213-1205
(716) 882-4900

McPike Addiction Treatment Center
1213 Court Street
Utica, NY 13502
(315) 738-4600

Richard C. Ward Addiction Treatment Center
Suite No. 12/16, Building 92
117 Seward Avenue
Middletown, NY 10940
(845) 341-2500

Russell E. Blaisdell Addiction Treatment Center
Rockland Psychiatric Center
Box 140
Orangeburg, NY 10962-1129
(845) 359-8500

 

South Beach Addiction Treatment Center
South Beach Psychiatric Center
Building 3
777 Seaview Avenue
Staten Island, NY 10305-3499
(718) 667-5202

St. Lawrence Addiction Treatment Center
One Chimney Point Drive
Hamilton Hall
Ogdensburg, NY 13669-2291
(315) 393-1180

 


NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND COMMUNITY SUPERVISION

MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION WITH A LIST OF THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED TO:
NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision
1220 Washington Avenue
State Office Building Campus
Building #2
Albany, NY 12226-2050
(518) 457-8132

Bedford Hills Correctional Facility
247 Harris Road
Bedford Hills, NY 10507-2499
(914) 241-3100

Fishkill Correctional Facility
Box 307
Beacon, NY 12508
(845) 831-4800

Mohawk Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 470
6100 School Road
Rome, NY 13440
(315) 339-5232

Wende Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 1187
Alden, NY 14004-1187
(716) 937-4000

 

NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH

MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION TO THE FACILITY WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED.

Bronx Children's Psychiatric Center
1000 Waters Place
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 239-3600

Bronx Psychiatric Center
1500 Waters Place
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 931-0600

Buffalo Psychiatric Center
400 Forest Avenue
Buffalo, NY 14213
(716) 885-2261

Capital District Psychiatric Center
75 New Scotland Avenue
Albany, NY 12208
(518) 447-9611

Central New York Psychiatric Center
P.O. Box 300, Old River Road
Marcy, NY 13403
(315) 736-8271

Creedmoor Psychiatric Center
79-25 Winchester Boulevard
Queens Village, NY 11427
(718) 464-7500

Elmira Psychiatric Center
100 Washington Street
Elmira, NY 14901-2898
(607) 737-4711

Greater Binghamton Health Center
425 Robinson Street
Binghamton, NY 13901
(607) 724-1391

Hutchings Psychiatric Center
187 Northern Concourse
N. Syracuse, NY 13212
(315) 426-3600

Kingsboro Psychiatric Center
681 Clarkson Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11203
(718) 221-7700

Kirby Forensic Psychiatric Center
600 East 125th Street
Wards Island, NY 10035
(646) 672-6999

Manhattan Psychiatric Center
600 East 125th Street
Wards Island, NY�� 10035
(212) 369-0500

Mid-Hudson Psychiatric Center
P.O. Box 158, Route 17M
New Hampton, NY 10958
(845) 374-3171

Mohawk Valley Psychiatric Center
1400 Noyes at York
Utica, NY 13502

Nathan S. Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research
140 Old Orangeburg Road
Orangeburg, NY 10962
(845) 398-5500

New York City Children's Center*
Attn: Recruitment Unit ��� Bronx Campus
1000 Waters Place
Bronx, NY 10461
(718) 239-3639

* Employment opportunities exist at the Bronx Campus, Brooklyn Campus (1819 Bergen Street, Brooklyn, NY 11233), and Queens Campus (74-03 Commonwealth Boulevard, Bellerose, NY 11426).��
Please note on your application with your exam title the campus(es) you wish to work.

NYS Psychiatric Institute
1051 Riverside Drive
New York, NY 10032
(212) 543-5000

Pilgrim Psychiatric Center
998 Crooked Hill Road
West Brentwood, NY 11717-1087
(631) 761-3500

Rochester Psychiatric Center
1111 Elmwood Avenue
Rochester, NY 14620
(585) 241-1200
(315) 738-3800

Rockland Children's Psychiatric Center
2 First Avenue
Orangeburg, NY 10962
(845) 359-7400

Rockland Psychiatric Center
140 Old Orangeburg Road
Orangeburg, NY 10962
(845) 359-1000

Sagamore Children's Psychiatric Center
197 Half Hollow Road
Dix Hills, NY 11746
(631) 673-7700

South Beach Psychiatric Center
777 Seaview Avenue
Staten Island, NY 10305
(718) 667-2300

St. Lawrence Psychiatric Center
1 Chimney Point Drive
Ogdensburg, NY 13669
(315) 541-2001

Western NY Children's Psychiatric Center
1010 East and West Road
West Seneca, NY 14224
(716) 677-7000


NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH SATELLITE UNITS LOCATED IN CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES
TO APPLY TO MENTAL HEALTH SATELLITE UNITS LOCATED IN THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES LISTED BELOW, MAIL THE COMPLETED APPLICATION WITH A LIST OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SATELLITE UNITS WHERE YOU WISH TO BE EMPLOYED TO:
Central New York Psychiatric Center
300 Old River Road
Marcy, NY 13403

Albion Correctional Facility
3595 State School Road
Albion, NY 14411
(585) 589-5511

Attica Correctional Facility
Box 149
Attica, NY 14011-0149
(585) 591-2000

Auburn Correctional Facility
135 State Street
Auburn, NY 13021
(315) 253-8401

Bedford Hills Correctional Facility
247 Harris Road
Bedford Hills, NY 10507-2499
(914) 241-3100

Clinton Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 2000
Dannemora, NY 12929
(518) 492-2511

Collins Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 490
Collins, NY 14034-0490
(716) 532-4588

Coxsackie Correctional Facility
Box 200
West Coxsackie, NY 12051-0200
(518) 731-2781

Downstate Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 445
Fishkill, NY 12524-0445
(845) 831-6600

Eastern New York Correctional Facility
Box 338
Napanoch, NY 12458-0338
(845) 647-7400

Elmira Correctional Facility
Box 500
Elmira, NY 14902-0500
(607) 734-3901

Fishkill Correctional Facility
Box 307
Beacon, NY 12508
(845) 831-4800

Five Points C. F.
Caller Box 400
Romulus, NY 14541
(607) 869-5111

Great Meadow Correctional Facility
Box 51
Comstock, NY 12821
(518) 639-5516

Green Haven Correctional Facility
Route 216
Stormville, NY 12582
(845) 221-2711

Groveland Correctional Facility
Route 36, Sonyea Road
Sonyea, NY 14556-0001
(585) 658-2871

Mid-State Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 216
Marcy, NY 13403-0216
(315) 768-8581

Mohawk Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 8450
6100 School Road
Rome, NY 13440
(315) 339-5232

Shawangunk Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 750
Wallkill, NY 12589-0750
(845) 895-2081

Sing Sing Correctional Facility
354 Hunter Street
Ossining, NY 10562-5442
(914) 941-0108

Sullivan Correctional Facility
Box 116
Fallsburg, NY 12733-0116
(845) 434-2080

Upstate Correctional Facility
P.O Box 2000
Malone, NY 12953
(518) 483-6997

Wende Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 1187
Alden, NY 14004-1187
(716) 937-4000

Woodbourne Correctional Facility
Riverside Drive
Woodbourne, NY 12788
(845) 434-7730

 

Additional Information

New York State is an Equal Opportunity Employer

It is the policy of the State of New York to provide for and promote equal opportunity employment, compensation, and other terms and conditions of employment without unlawful discrimination on the basis of age, race, color, religion, disability, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, veteran or military service member status, marital status, domestic violence victim status, genetic predisposition or carrier status, arrest and/or criminal conviction record, or any other category protected by law, unless based upon a bona fide occupational qualification or other exception.

Appointment to many positions in State government require candidates to undergo an investigative screening. This may include a thorough character investigation, a Federal Bureau of Investigation Criminal Record History Check, a Child Abuse Registry clearance, or other similar procedures. Candidates may be fingerprinted and may be required to pay any necessary fees for that procedure. Depending on the nature of the job, the criminal convictions discovered, or any falsified or omitted information revealed, the investigative findings may bar appointment or result in removal after appointment.

Eligibility for Employment

You must be legally eligible to work in the United States at the time of appointment and throughout your employment with New York State. If appointed, you must produce documents that establish your identity and eligibility to work in the United States, as required by the federal Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, and the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Reasonable Accommodations in Testing

It is the policy of the Department of Civil Service, in accordance with the New York State Human Rights Law and the Americans with Disabilities Act, to provide qualified persons with disabilities equal employment opportunity and equal opportunity to participate in and receive the benefits, services, programs, and activities of the Department. It is the policy of the Department to provide such persons reasonable accommodations and reasonable modifications as are necessary to provide equal opportunity. Persons with disabilities who require an accommodation to participate in an examination must note this on their application. Further information is available from the Test Accommodation Unit of the Department of Civil Service at Testaccommodation@cs.ny.gov.

New York State Residence Is Not Required For Most Positions

However, you must be eligible for employment in the United States.

Continuous Recruitment/Eligible Lists

Candidates who meet the qualifications and pass this examination will have their names placed on the eligible list in the order of final scores, regardless of the date on which they filed or took the test. Generally, the names of qualified candidates will remain on the eligible list for two years. Appeal of ratings will not be allowed as the opportunity for retest exists. The Department of Civil Service reserves the right to terminate this special recruitment program.

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